Friday, August 12, 2016

How To Defeat The Jihad - An all-star panel lays out what the West must do to win at the West Coast Retreat.

Four separate independent surveys have all shown since 1998, 80 percent of American mosques are teaching hatred of Jews and Christians and the necessity of the Constitution to be replaced by Islamic law at a certain point when that is possible.  These studies were all done separately by different people and they all came to this same result.  And it's not in the least a surprising result when you read the Quran and see that it does say make war against the unbelievers.  And it says in particular to make war against and subjugate the People of the Book, that is, the Jews and the Christians.  Now this is another way in which calling these things by wrong names and pretending that the problem is other than what it is and continuing to apply failed solutions is only making things worse. 
We need to stand finally for own values, and Bruce alluded to this a little bit, that there has been nothing like the way that we confronted the Nazis and the Japanese in World War II.  We went into Iraq and Afghanistan, defeated the people who were in power very quickly, and then the whole thing went wrong because we implemented Sharia constitutions in both countries that enshrined as law the very same beliefs and attitudes that had led those countries to be hostile to the United States in the first place.  It is as if we had gone into Germany after the war and put Goering in charge after Hitler had killed himself.  In the Japanese occupation, Douglas McArthur, the leader of the occupation, issued an edict very soon after he got there saying that there will be no representation for state Shinto, which had fueled Japanese militarism, in the government or in the schools.  Imagine if we had done that in Iraq and Afghanistan and said you're perfectly free to pray to Allah and read your Quran, but there's not going to be any Islam taught in the schools and any representation of political Islam in the government.  Things would look very different today.  But we have never stood.  If we had gone into those countries and said, "Women who are being beaten, non-Muslims who are being terrorized, you have safe-haven in the American-controlled areas."  We didn't do it.  We could have gotten a huge ground swell of support among people in Muslim countries who were just as threatened by jihad and hate Sharia just as much as any freedom-loving American.  Missed opportunities.  
- Robert Spencer

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An all-star panel lays out what the West must do to win at the West Coast Retreat.

Editor's note: Below are the video and transcript to the panel "How to Defeat the Jihad," which took place at the David Horowitz Freedom Center's 2016 West Coast Retreat. The event was held April 8-10 at the Terranea Resort in Palos Verdes, CA.

From the transcript:

Jamie Glazov: I want to crystallize two things and just ask each of you, please.  I know it would take an hour, but just 2 minutes on these vital issues that you discussed.  Again, I mention his name and his book -- all of these books are crucial -- but I just wanted to say that in "Catastrophic Failure," Stephen Coughlin says something that this whole debate about "Is this really the real Islam and are these really Muslims, etc."  -- and Stephen Coughlin says none of that is even important in the sense that what the enemy believes is important. So even though it's not the true Islam, hypothetically, if the jihadis believe that it's the true Islam, that's all that counts.  
Bruce Thornton: No, I think you're right.  And what they know is they know history and they know their doctrine the way your average Christian doesn't really know their own history.  And they see that the Islam that they believe in was the original Islam, and that it was immensely successful.  I mean it is unbelievable that tribes of Bedouins brought down the Persian and Byzantine empires and threatened Europe.  At one level you've got to say that's a great achievement.  And when they look and see the history after 1924 particularly, we see regimens try communism, they try fascism, the Baathists, they try a little bit of democracy, they try all these things and then none of them work. And Albanna and these guys said, "Why don't we go back to the true Islam, the original Islam, the Rightly-Guided Caliphs?" And that's what they're doing.  And as Robert was saying, for anybody not a Muslim to say that's not the real Islam, well then what is the real Islam?  
Jamie Glazov: But also the key is that on some realms it doesn't matter.  As long as the jihadis believe that it is.  
Bruce Thornton: Exactly. 
Jamie Glazov: Robert? 
Robert Spencer: Well, what Steve Coughlin is saying there is that the government has to study this Islam that the jihadis believe in because we have to understand the enemy's motives and goals. We can't defeat an enemy that we don't understand, much less one that we refuse to understand, which is the situation we're in now.  And that is absolutely true.  But it also does matter whether or not this is not necessarily the only true Islam but a genuine interpretation that is mainstream within Islam because that means that it could come up anywhere.  And then anywhere there's a believing Muslim with the Quran then there could be a Jihadi.  And we cannot discount that fact; we need to understand not only the nature of the threat as it stands today but the potential of so-called radicalization.  If it is something that is truly within Islam then it could come up at any point and we have to be aware of that and deal with it in some way.  
There was a kid at the University of North Carolina a few years back. He was very secular, an Iranian-American, and he decided after some crises in his life to become religious and to discover his religious tradition.  So he got a Quran and he started reading it and then he rented an SUV and drove it on campus trying to kill as many students as possible because he read this in the Quran that he ought to be killing infidels.  And so we do need to understand whether this is a genuine form of Islam or not.  Because it will elucidate for us what exactly we're up against.  
Jamie Glazov: Thank you, Robert.  Richard? 
Richard Miniter: I guess I have a slightly different view of this. I spent a lot of time in Muslim-majority countries. There is something like 1.2 billion Muslims on earth, and there is a broad diversity of belief among them.  And I don't know what the real Islam is but I can tell you that every terrorist group that you've ever heard of and many that you haven't all belong to one particular type of Sunni Islam, and that is to say they are Salafis and you can identify them fairly easily by the way they dress and by the way they interact in Arab society.  So on the streets of Cairo if you see a woman wearing black gloves because her idea of modesty is that she cannot even show the skin of her hands to strangers in 100 degree heat, she is most likely Salafi.  
The Salafis believe that they are the true Muslims.  They believe that they are going back to the four Rightly-Guided Caliphs that were mentioned a few minutes ago.  That's a period, by the way, of 38 years out of more than 1,000.  The four Rightly-Guided Caliphs were the first four, the last one of which I believe is Uthman, who died by assassination shortly after evening prayers one Friday night.  So it was a very brief period.  The periods of enlightenment that people talk about in Islam are actually very misleading. Robert has a lot more on this.  But in those two periods of enlightenment were when the Islamic world was run by Persians and not by Arabs.  And so this preservation of Greek text and translation of Greek text had been a Persian habit before the Persians were converted to Islam and is something in those brief periods when the Persians ruled that that kind of toleration seemed to flourish.  
But what we have to do is we have to find Arab Muslim allies to join us.  And fortunately there are hundreds of millions of them. Let me tell you about one. In 2006 I was in Kuwait City and I had an appointment to see the head of Interior, which is their intelligence service, that was delayed. So they said, "Do you want to meet the Minister of Education?"  It's a woman.  And I agreed to meet her because she was threatened with death that very morning by 40 members -- there were only 100 members of the Kuwaiti parliament. Forty percent of it threatened her with death because she had been sworn in that day without covering all of her hair.  So I went to see her and she said my own daughter thinks I should die. Her British-university-educated daughter, who covers herself completely has been totally absorbed into this Jihadi/Salafi belief.  Well, she herself is fighting for a society that's much more like ours.  Is it a Jeffersonian democracy?  No, but it is one with individual rights and rule of law and concepts of free speech in it.  Those allies exist.  They're often alone. They're often brave and they're often killed.  We need to reach out to them. We need to raise them up as heroes. We need to defend them when possible and lionize them when they fall.