Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Jan Milld is a Holocaust-denier (this post has been updated and edited since it was originally published)

The Swedish magazine Blågula Frågor (which is translated to "BlueYellow Topics" at their website), or BGF for short, writes on this page of their website that:
"The prime mover within BGF is Jan Milld who is the editor of the magazine and the website, and Anders Sundholm who is the association`s chairman."

The above quote in the original Swedish: "Drivande inom BGF är Jan Milld, som är redaktör för tidskriften och webbsidan, och Anders Sundholm, som är föreningens ordförande."

Mr. Milld did a favorable and uncritical interview in 2001 with Jonas de Geer. Mr De Geer was at the time of Milld`s interview the editor of the Swedish magazine "Salt". In Milld`s interview De Geer was, among other things, complaining about the fact that Salt took heat after they interviewed David Irving.

See, BlågulaFrågor, nr 2/01: Intervju med Jonas De Geer:
Hur bota ett sjukt samhälle?, at this hyperlink for the full interview in Swedish.

According to the David Irving Press Library, Salt wrote the following summary about the interview they published with Irving:

"At the beginning of this year there was a trial in London, which attracted global attention -- even in Sweden. The controversial historian and author David Irving had sued the American Jewish Professor Deborah Lipstadt and her publisher Penguin for libel. Irving, whose books about Nazi-Germany and the Second World War have been translated into many languages and reached a wide circle of readers all over the world, has during recent years attracted most attention because of his critique of the official version of the Holocaust

The editorial staff of SALT has not the historical competence to decide whether Irving is right or not. But how many actually do have such a competence?

Something is wrong in any case when someone is judged as a falsifier of history by journalists, who themselves hardly know when the Second World War began or ended.

It is particularly sickening that certain circles: etc. are continually attacked and insulted as "racists" and "deniers" by the establishment press, while at the same time they are forbidden to speak out and defend themselves.

This is the reason why we visited David Irving in London, in order to get his version of the trial and what lead to it."


In this context however, I would like to state that while Holocaust-denial is dangerous it should not be against the law.

There is no other word in Sweden that is spelled "milld" (as in Jan Milld), with two l`s. Furthermore there is no word in the Swedish language which is spelled "millt", with two l`s. There is the Swedish word "mild" which tranlsates to English as "mild" but it is spelled with only one l. This adjective can be declined into "milt" which translates as "mildly".

Below follows a translation of an article from March 2006 with the phrase "Millt said" or alternatively "Millt put" (in the Swedish original "Millt sagt") above it. It is a word-play on the fact that the phrase in Swedish resembles the phrase "milt sagt", which translates as "mildly put". That means that it`s part of a series of columns with the name "Millt sagt". The author behind the series is Jan Milld which he also admits at his own personal website.

Relevant to the understanding of this translation furthemore is the fact that both "Metro" and "Stockholm-City" (from which Milld collects brief quotes that he uses in the article) are regular and legitimate Swedish newspapers.

From Millt sagt:

"March 2006
Millt said

Two verdicts

During the month that passed two verdicts were pronounced, both of them directed at freedom of speech and the free exchange of ideas.

VERDICT NO 1

One of these verdicts was pronounced in Lucknow, India.

Stockholm City on the 21st of February 2006:

"INDIAN COURT: EXECUTION IS A DUTY

An Islamic court in northern India has sentenced the twelve Danish Muhammed-cartoonists to death.

The court Idar-e-sharia darul kaza in Lucknow in the state of Uttar Pradesh on monday pronounced a fatwa, a religious decree, that the cartoonists should be killed. According to the court it is every Muslims duty, no matter where he lives to carry out this verdict if the opportunity arises for him."

Similar news has arrived from Pakistan where a Toyota is promised to the one who kills a cartoonist.

These are hardly verdicts that are meant to decrease the talked about "Islamophobia" in the world.

Already a death sentence because of a few cartoons is absurd. Democracy is based on it`s citizens putting up with taking in things that they don`t like.

It becomes even more absurd when people in India make claims on deciding what is published in Denmark.

Spokesmen for Muslims in Sweden officially denounce the threats of violence, but nevertheless they agree with the demands:

the Danish government should apologise for the publication in Jyllands-Posten - a government is in other words to be considered responsible for everything that is published in the country in the manner of a publisher.

not only obvious lampooning cartoons but every representation of Muhammed (possibly also other individuals), should be prohibited - because otherwise some Muslims might feel "offended"!

Being offeded here becomes a political weapon, an instrument to drive through one`s will and move forward the postitions for Islam in the Western countries.

The seriousness of the threats coming from Asia are underlined by the fact that there are now many millions of Muslims in Europe. It is enough in principle that one of these individuals responds to this fatwa, in order for it to be carried out.

VERDICT NO 2

The second verdict was pronounced in Vienna, Austria.

Metro on the 21st of February 2006:

"HOLOCAUST-DENIER SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN JAIL

The British historian David Irving was sentenced to three years in jail by a court in Vienna because he 17 years ago... claimed there were no gas-chambers in the Nazi death-camp Auschwitz."

Relevant here is the fact that David Irving today says he has changed his mind. This was not enough for him to escape jail.

On the other hand his changing of positions is devoid of credibility. From the beginning this was less a matter of expressing an opinion than stating a fact,
There is no technical evidence regarding the presence of gas-chambers, what is now in Auschwitz is built after the war. The writing of history in this context is based entirely on witness testimony.

The sentencing of David Irving is more fit to increase the "anti-Semitism" in the world. It clearly means increased anti-Intellectualism.

Already a jail-sentence on account of opinions or statement of fact (or the abscence of fact) is of course absurd. Democracy is as said previously based on it`s citizens putting up with taking in things that they don`t like.

Behind the notion of "Holocaust-deniers" there is a whole parcel of ideas that must be accepted and where not even details are allowed to be discussed. In this parcel is included the figure of 6 million - that many Jews were murdered by the Nazis. From the beginning however it was claimed that there were four million that were executed only in Auschwitz, subsequently official numbers for Auscwitz has been reduced with about 2-3 million. Does not simple mathematics tell you then that the total number of 6 million should be reduced to a corresponding degree?

There was a time when the earth was flat. Scientists who questioned this dogma could be sentenced to death. Now a similar dogma has been created regarding the Holocaust -in other words something which cannot be discussed and that cannot be treated with scientific methods.

The Second World War is now more than half a century away. It is increasingly unlikely that we will see a rerun. It is high time that Jews left their role as vitims behind themselves!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The two verdicts consequently have something in common.

The talk of "Islamophobia" is designed to declare someone stupid, the talk of "anti-Semitism" is designed to shame someone.

In both cases it`s about creating a "distance of respect" in order to avoid criticism.
"

Here is the original article in Swedish with more material following below it:

"Mars 2006
Millt sagt

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Två domar

Under månaden som gick avkunnades två domar, båda riktade mot yttrandefriheten och det fria meningsutbytet.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DOM NR 1

Den ena domen avkunnades i Lucknow, Indien.

Stockholm City den 21/2 -06:

"INDISK DOMSTOL: AVRÄTTNING EN PLIKT

En islamsk domstol i norra Indien har dömt de tolv danska Muhammedtecknarna till döden.

Domstolen Idar-e-sharia darul kaza i Lucknow i delstaten Uttar Pradesh utfärdade på måndagen en fatwa, ett religiöst dekret, om att tecknarna ska dödas. Enligt domstolen är det varje muslims plikt, oavsett var han bor, att verkställa dödsdomen om han får tillfälle till det."

Liknande nyheter har kommit från Pakistan, där en Toyota utlovas till den som dödar en tecknare.

DET ÄR KNAPPAST DOMAR, ägnade att minska den omtalade "islamofobin" i världen.

Redan en dödsdom på grundval av några teckningar är naturligtvis absurd. Demokrati bygger på att medborgarna står ut med att ta del av även sådant som de inte gillar.

Än mer absurt blir det när människor i Indien gör anspråk på att bestämma vad som ska få publiceras i Danmark.

Företrädare för muslimer i Sverige tar officiellt avstånd från hoten om våldsdåd, inte desto mindre ansluter de sig till kraven i sak:

den danska regeringen ska be om ursäkt för publiceringen i Jyllands-Posten - en regering ska m.a.o. betraktas som ansvarig utgivare för allt som publiceras i landet.

inte bara uppenbara nidbilder utan varje avbildning av Muhammed (kanske även andra personer), ska vara förbjuden - eftersom en del muslimer annars kan känna sig "kränkta"!

Kränktheten blir här till ett politiskt vapen, ett instrument att driva igenom sin vilja och flytta fram positionerna för islam i västländerna.

Allvaret i hoten från Asien understryks av att det i Europa nu finns många miljoner muslimer. Det räcker i princip med att en av dessa individer hörsammar fatwan, för att den ska kunna verkställas.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DOM NR 2

Den andra domen avkunnades i Wien, Österrike.

Metro den 21/2 -06:

"FÖRINTELSEFÖRNEKARE DÖMD TILL TRE ÅRS FÄNGELSE

Den brittiske historikern David Irving dömdes till tre års fängelse av en domstol i Wien för att han för 17 år sedan... påstod att det inte fanns några gaskamrar i det nazistiska förintelselägret Auschwitz."

Till saken hör att David Irving säger sig idag ha ändrat hållning i frågan. Detta räckte inte för att han skulle undgå fängelsedomen.

Å andra sidan var den ändrade hållningen föga trovärdig. Det var ju från början mindre fråga om uttryckande av en åsikt än påpekande av ett faktum, Det saknas teknisk bevisning beträffande förekomsten av gaskamrar, vad som nu finns i Auschwitz är byggt efter kriget. Historieskrivningen i detta sammanhang bygger helt på vittnesuppgifter.

DOMEN MOT DAVID IRVING är närmast ägnad att öka "antisemitismen" i världen. Helt klart är att den betyder ökad antiintellektualism.

Redan en fängelsedom på grundval av åsikter eller påpekande av fakta (eller frånvaro av fakta) är naturligtvis helt absurd. Demokrati bygger som sagt på att medborgarna står ut med att ta del av även sådant som de inte gillar.

Bakom begreppet "förintelseförnekare" ligger ett paket av föreställningar som måste accepteras och där inte ens detaljer får ställas under diskussion. I paketet ingår siffran 6 miljoner - så många judar mördades av nazisterna. Från början hävdades dock att det var 4 miljoner som avrättades i bara Auschwitz, därefter har officiella siffror för Auschwitz reducerats med 2-3 miljoner. Säger inte enkel matematik att då även totalsiffran på 6 miljoner i motsvarande grad måste ändras?

Det fanns en tid då jorden var platt. Vetenskapsmän som ifrågasatte denna dogm kunde dömas till döden. Nu har man skapat en liknande dogm kring förintelsen - dvs något som inte får diskuteras och inte kan behandlas med vetenskapliga metoder.

Andra världskriget ligger nu mer än ett halvsekel tillbaka i tiden. Det blir allt mindre sannolikt att det kommer att gå i repris. Det är hög tid att judar lämnar sin offerroll bakom sig!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

De två domarna har alltså något gemensamt.

Talet om "islamofobi" är ägnat att dumförklara, talet om "antisemitism" ägnat att skuldbelägga.

I båda fallen handlar det om att upprätta ett "respektavstånd" för att slippa kritik."

David Irving only changed his opinions for a brief period that he himself admitted later when he again changed his mind. Also Milld`s statement that "The writing of history in this context is based entirely on witness testimony." is not true.

The material about Irving that follows below is taken from The Nizkor Project although it didn`t originate at that site.

QC ACCUSES HISTORIAN OF 'MOCKING' HOLOCAUST VICTIMS by Cathy Gordon, PA News PRESS ASSOCIATION NEWS FILE, UK, 03.02.00 (as well as) TIMES LONDON 03.02.00 Irving challenged over 'cynical anti-Semitism' BY MICHAEL HORSNELL :

"I don't see any reason to be tasteful about Auschwitz. It's baloney, it's a legend. Once we admit the fact that it was a brutal slave labour camp and large numbers of people did die, as large numbers of innocent people died elsewhere in the war, why believe the rest of the baloney?" Irving said.
He added, "I say quite tastelessly, in fact, that more women died on the back seat of Edward Kennedy's car at Chappaquiddick than ever died in a gas chamber in Auschwitz."

He went on, "Oh, you think that's tasteless, how about this? There are so many Auschwitz survivors going around, in fact the number increases as the years go past, which is biologically very odd to say the least. Because I'm going to form an Association of Auschwitz survivors, survivors of the Holocaust and other liars, or the ASSHOLS."

More about Irving from The Jewish Telegraph (Scottish Edition) via The Nizkor Project:

The Jewish Telegraph (Scottish edition),
Fri May 28th, 1993, p11

"Isreal has only 10 years left, says Holocaust row man
BRITISH Holocaust-denier David Irving who was refused entry into Australia, still managed to get his message across to the public. He used interviews, conducted from abroad with the local media. In an interview on the national Network 7 in Australia, Irving claimed his campaign would bring about "the destruction of the state of Israel". He added that the sight of black cricketers competing for England gave him a "queasy feeling." Irving predicted that Israel would be destroyed within 10 years because that is how long it would take him and his colleagues to overturn the belief in the holocaust.

On national ABC Radio, Irving claimed that Hitler was anti-Jewish "up to 1933" but that he had no reason to believe Hitler was responsible for the murders of "up to hundreds of thousands of Jews." Asked if he was a racist, Irving replied that he was a nationalist and a patriot and that was the basis of his objection to non-Anglo-Saxon involvement in British public life. Renewed interest in Irving followed the denial last week of his visa application to Australia and, afterward, widespread opposition to his plans to reach the public via a videotape of a speech he would have given had he been permitted to enter Australia."

You can continue reading about Irving on The Nizkor Project site`s section on him at this adress.

Thursday, 12th of June, 2008, UPDATE:

"Nationaldemokraterna" is a Swedish political party. Their party name is abbreviated as ND. "Nationell Idag" is an official party-organ of Nationaldemokraterna. In the fall of 2007 Nationell Idag did an interview with Jan Milld (the Jan Milld whom this post is about). This interview is published in it`s entirety at Mr. Milld`s own personal website. It can be read in full by clicking this hyperlink.

Below this paragraph follows an excerpt from this interview. The excerpt is translated by me. In the excerpt Mr. Milld is asked how he views "Nationell Idag".

Nationell Idag Interviewer:

What is your view of our paper Nationell Idag?

Mr. Milld:

It`s a paper that is needed! My hope is that it will have a broad outlook so that it won`t appeal solely to members of ND, but to all of the Swedes that now have to suffer because of multiculturalism and the disintegration of society. A paper is needed, around which an opposition to the madness can gather.

Allow me to add one thing. Refugee- and immigration-politics must also take an interest in the causes of why so many people emigrate. That can make a good poster for ND with the poster having as catchphrase, "USA OUT OF IRAQ - IRAQ OUT OF SWEDEN!". I think that captures something important. The West should leave Muslim countries alone and at the same time Muslim countries should stop colonizing western countries.

Whether we look at Chile and other latin american countries during the 70s, the Balkans in the 90s or Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan today a clear pattern emerges, namely how the United States, with it`s interventions - directly or indirectly - creates large streams of refugees.

And pay for it will Sweden not least.


Here is the excerpt above in the original Swedish with more following afterwards:

"Hur ser du på vår tidning Nationell Idag?

- Det är en tidning som behövs! Min förhoppning är att den ska få en bred framtoning och vända sig inte bara till ND:are, utan till att alla de svenskar som nu får lida av mångkulturens och samhällsupplösningens effekter. Det behövs en tidning, kring vilken en opposition mot galenskaperna kan samlas.

- Låt mig gärna tillägga en sak. Invandrings- och flyktingpolitik måste intressera sig också för orsakerna till invandringstrycket, till att så många människor migrerar. Där har ND en bra klisterdekal, med texten "USA UT UR IRAK - IRAK UT UR SVERIGE!". Det tycker jag fångar något väsentligt. Västvärlden ska lämna muslimska länder i fred, samtidigt som muslimska länder upphör med sin kolonisering av västländer.

- Vare sig vi ser på Chile och andra latinamerikanska länder under 70-talet, Balkan på 90-talet eller Irak, Somalia och Afghanistan idag så finns ett tydligt mönster, nämligen hur USA genom sina interventioner - direkt eller indirekt - stampar fram stora flyktingströmmar.

- Betala får då inte minst Sverige."

Mr. Milld`s column Millt sagt is today a regular feature in Nationell Idag, all with the permission and cooperation of Mr. Milld of course.

The following quotation and translation is from the section "Questions & Answers" at the main party site of Nationaldemokraterna (click here to visit and read the page from which I took the quotation below):

Q: What is your position on Zionism?

A: Zionism is a a designation with more than one meaning to it. Some say that it`s the idea that Jews should have their own country, as it was formulated by Theodor Herzl in the book Der Judenstaat. Nationaldemokraterna supports such an aspiration because we regard the different peoples of the world as having a right to states of their own. We also regard the Palestinians to have that same right of course.

Another meaning of Zionism is the aspiration for world-domination through taking over important national industries, primarily the media and banking, in other peoples` countries. Nationaldemokraterna opposes such an aspiration because it violates every people`s right to self-determination and liberty.


Here follows the above quotation in the original Swedish:

"Hur ställer ni er till sionism?

Sionismen är en tvetydig benämning. Vissa menar att det är tanken om att judar ska ha ett eget land, så som den formulerades av Theodor Herzl i boken Der Judenstaat. En sådan strävan stödjer Nationaldemokraterna eftersom vi anser det vara en rättighet för de olika folken i världen att ha en egen stat. Vi anser förstås även att palestinier har samma rätt.

En annan innebörd av sionism är strävan efter världsherravälde genom övertagande av viktiga näringar, främst media och bankväsende, i andra folks länder. En sådan strävan är Nationaldemokraterna motståndare till eftersom den just kränker alla folks rätt till självstyre och frihet."

Nationaldemokraterna participated in the May 20-22, 2005 European-American Conference in New Orleans, hosted by David Duke. At the conference Nationaldemokraterna engaged in a panel debate with David Duke and delegates from Stormfront.org, Front National, the British National Party, the Canadian Association for Free Expression and National Vanguard.

Jonas De Geer (who figured earlier in this post) wrote a foreword to the Swedish edition of David Duke`s book "Jewish Supremacism: My Awakening to the Jewish Question" (or in Swedish "Den judiska rasismen") in 2004 when that book was published by the extremist publishing house Nordiska Förlaget. Nordiska Förlaget has published international authors such as David Duke and David Irving as well as Swedish ones, like Holocaust-denier Lars Adelskogh.

Here follows a quote from that foreword:

As a matter of fact, as David Duke shows in detail, the Jews are perhaps the most ethnocentric and well-organized people in history. In addition to that is the fact that within Jewishness there is an ancient tradition of suspicion, hostility and hatred towards non-Jews. The Jewish contempt for non-Jews has not solely been an understandable and justified reaction towards a permanently hostile environment, the Jewish ethnocentrism, racism and xenophobia is actually an integral part of traditional Judaism, codified in it`s holiest documents, Torah and Talmud.

Furthermore, in Mr. De Geer`s foreword, he wrote about the dangerous global power of the Jews of today. Also, in that foreword, Mr. De Geer referred favorably to Kevin MacDonald, something that Mr. De Geer still does on his Swedish blog. Furthermore Mr. De Geer still refers favorably to David Duke on his Swedish blog. And Mr. De Geer still writes about the dangerous global power of the Jews on his Swedish blog.

In the paragraph below follows my translation of a quote from a recent post at Mr. De Geer`s Swedish blog (the post can be read in full at this hyperlink). In the post Mr. De Geer focuses on the American State Department`s "Report on Global Anti-Semitism", which was submitted by the State Department on December 30, 2004:

Obligatory is of course the mention of the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the document which virtually no one has read yet everybody knows is a "forgery". If they are so scared of the protocols, why is a political agenda waged on the domestic policy level in all western states, no less so in Sweden, as well as on the foreign policy level in the Jewish-dominated USA, that is completely in accordance with what some anonymous antisemite was to have romanced about at the end of the 1890s?

Here follows the above translated quote from Mr. De Geers blog in the original Swedish:

"Obligatoriskt nämns naturligtvis också Sions Vises Protokoll, dokumentet som praktiskt taget ingen läst men alla vet är en ”förfalskning”. Om de nu är så rädda för protokollen, varför förs det en politik på det inrikespolitiska planet i alla västerländska stater, inte minst i Sverige, såväl som på det utrikespolitiska i det judiskdominerade USA som är helt i linje med vad någon anonym antisemit skulle ha fabulerat i slutet på 1890-talet?"

In 2002 Milld published a book written by him with a foreword by Jonas De Geer. That book is still advertised prominently at the frontpage of Mr. Milld`s personal website. According to the page with the description of the book (which can be read at this hyperlink, that will take you to a page at Mr. Milld`s personal website) the foreword by Mr. De Geer is still part of the book. There is no criticism of Mr. De Geer on the page with the description of the book. Also, on that page a hyperlink is offered which takes you to another page at the same website. On that page one can still read the foreword by Mr. De Geer.

When I tried to search Mr. Milld`s personal website, looking for any critism of Mr. De Geer, I was unable to find what I was looking for.

Furthemore, when I tried to search Blågula Frågor (the magazine that figured earlier in this post), looking for any critism of Mr. De Geer, I was unable to find what I was looking for.

In the year 2000 Blågula Frågor published an uncritical review of Norman Finkelstein`s book "The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering" (the full Swedish text of that review can be read at this hyperlink).

With regards to Mr. Finkelstein and his work I would like to quote from the article "DeNial at DePaul -- the Thomas Klocek Affair" by Steven Plaut in FrontPageMagazine.com on April the 18th, 2005:

"Note how dramatically the DePaul vindictiveness stands in sharp contrast with the university's record regarding Norman Finkelstein, arguably the most openly anti-Semitic Jew on the planet and one of the worst anti-Semites in American academia. DePaul recruited Finkelstein as an assistant professor in political science after Finkelstein was fired from two New York-area adjunct teaching jobs (at New York University and Hunter College) because of his pseudo-scholarship and fraudulent rantings against Jews and Israel. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) openly calls Finkelstein a "Holocaust denier" and accuses him of pursuing an anti-Semitic agenda. Finkelstein is almost universally regarded as a Holocaust Denier, a Jewish traitor and anti-Semite, and at the very least a fraud and pseudo-scholar.

Finkelstein makes Ward Churchill look like a careful objective scholar. He is a disciple of Holocaust denier David Irving and claims Irving is an authoritative historian. Finkelstein refers to the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis as the "Six Million" in quotation marks, and says that nearly every Holocaust survivor is a fraud, a thief and a liar. (Finkelstein's own parents are Holocaust survivors and Finkelstein has long tried to capitalize on this as a way to legitimize his own anti-Semitism.) In his Die Welt interview he says: “Not only does the '6 Million' figure become more untenable but the numbers of the Holocaust industry are rapidly approaching those of Holocaust deniers." The psychiatry department at DePaul might have interesting things to say about this.

Finkelstein may be most famous for his comments justifying Holocaust Deniers: "Indeed, the field of Holocaust studies is replete with nonsense, if not sheer fraud."

In The Holocaust Industry, Finkelstein said, “’If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one,’ my mother used to exclaim, ‘who did Hitler kill?’" He added that most 'survivors' are bogus and that too much money is spent commemorating the Nazi genocide.

Finkelstein routinely libels Holocaust survivor, philosopher and writer Elie Wiesel in scurrilous terms. Finkelstein is the star on every Holocaust denial neo-Nazi web site on earth, serving as the "Jew who proved there was never any Holocaust." He has been denounced as a fraud and anti-Semite by Alan Dershowitz, historian Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, Dennis Prager, Professor Omer Bartov from Brown University, the World Jewish Congress, and just about every other academic to comment on him, gentile or Jew. Jonathan Freedland wrote in the British Guardian – a strongly pro-Palestinian newspaper - that Finkelstein was "closer to the people who created the Holocaust than to those who suffered it.”

The New York Times compared Finkelstein's book to the old czarist forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, ever popular with Saudis and Counterpunch columnists."

"In The Holocaust Industry, he described Holocaust reparations as a corrupt "racket"… He has also challenged the characterization of the Holocaust as a uniquely evil historical event, and likened Israeli security to the Gestapo. Finkelstein has openly endorsed Arab terror against Jewish civilians."